Some online Hillary supporters favor ripping the Democratic Party in half over admitting defeat

Submitted by Atheinostic on Wed, 2008-06-04 17:12.

Witness the collective/suicidial insanity that is the hillaryclinton.com comments page

"No V.P. It would be a 'slap in the face' to Senator Clinton and ALL WOMEN EVERYWHERE!!!
Take it to the Convention. We will support you all the way!!"

"GO HILLARY!! TAKE IT TO THE CONVENTION!!"

" If Sen. Clinton stays in the race, I will donate as much as I can whenever I can, because I believe in her, we all do, we are no longer invisible."

"[Caucuses are] the worst process anyone has ever had to undergo. I live in Texas and we had to undergo the infamous "Texas Two-Step." It was such a farse and a waste of time. I have never been part of such a mess. [Caucuses] should be illegal. "

"I encourage every Hillary supporter to be patient, stay strong like our candidate and write her in come the general election."

"We will accept nothing less than Hillary as the President of the United States. We will unify behind Hillary, or unify behind McCain. We will not unify behind Obama. End of discussion."

"Please go to Denver and please do not concede or give up your delegates. You are the chosen one. The Lord will see you through if you stay the course."

"If you can not vote for Mccain, why not consider the third party candidate. Obama is not a real democrat. He has no ideology. In addition, he is not a gentleman. He isn't qualified in either ability or morality."

Someone should remind these people that Hillary and Obama have very similar (and sometimes identical) positions on the issues, and that McCain is worlds away in right wing nut job land.

Vote for McCain instead of Obama? Really? I thought many of Hillary's supporters were feminists who cared about women's rights and specifically abortion rights. I guess they'd rather have McCain's Supreme Court nominees overturn Roe v. Wade than to *shudder* vote for Obama and see the mighty Hillary reduced to the lowly position of Vice President of the United States of America (which clearly would be a huge step backwards for women everywhere.)

Submitted by tony (not verified) on Thu, 2008-06-12 17:30.

The fact remains that Hillary and Barack are extremely similar in their views. A Clinton supporter choosing to vote McCain over Obama, using the arguement that Hillary didn't win the primary because of sexism, is hypocritical because it means that, for them, it's not about the issues. It's still sexist to only vote for Hill-Dawg because she's a woman. If a voter TRULY supported her because of her ideals and her stances on the issues, and not because of who she is, that voter would also have to support Obama because his ideas line up almost identically with hers: universal health care, better education, bringing the troops home, lowering taxes for the middle class, etc. Don't let feeling bitter about the media's role in this election cloud your judgement on the issues. This election is too important for that.

Just magine if Hillary had won the primary and black voters chose not to support her because she wasn't black. It seems absurd, yet it would be the same type of hypocricy we're seeing now.

Also, as for choosing a party that 'actually values women', try the Democrats. No woman would have gotten anywhere near as far as Hillary on the GOP ticket. Just the fact that she got close is a testament to the appreciation the Democratic party has for her, and for all women. Even if Obama doesn't give her the nod for VP, Obama has said she's still going to have a key role in his administration, especially on the health care issue because of her experience in that area.

It is scary to think about what will happen to this country with the Republicans in charge 4 more years. They've had their shot, and look where we are. They represent the interests of the super-rich owning class that wants to leave 90% of the population behind socially and economically.

P.S. I agree about the proportional representation idea.

Submitted by MemphisWomyn (not verified) on Thu, 2008-06-12 16:29.

I am a Hillary supporter. What I saw from the media towards her was appalling... and it was more appalling that her fellow colleagues were part of the feeding frenzy against her. What this showed me is that the Democratic Party does not respect women, and if you don't respect women, how can your say you represent them? The party's behavior showed that women aren't very important and that they can be treated badly. I'm not so sure that things will be better with Obama. His inexperience makes him ripe for manipulation. Fancy orations alone will not solve the problems this country has and will face. And calling me stupid, ignorant, uneducated, and racist is not going to get my support. All I've seen is disrespect from Obama, his supporters, the media, and the Democratic Party. Now they want unity and they say let's all get on the bandwagon like nothing ever happened. The Democratic Party is just like an abusive husband who begs forgiveness and says it will never happen again. The Democratic Party is just as an abusive husband who tells his wife she's nothing without him and where will she go if she tries to leave. In abusive situations, the solution, no matter how difficult, is to leave the situation. John McCain may be for the war, but at least he's honest about it. And quite frankly, with respect to women, I don't think it will make much difference in our lives who is in power. Both parties see women as second class citizens. The Democratic Party has used us for the last time. It is time for us to find our strength and move on to a new party... one that actually values us. It is time for us to take control of our lives. It's time for us to stop depending on men to set the agendas. We make up more than 50% of the voting population. We have the power if we wish to use it. Let us find our strength... our voice... and let's move ourselves and this country to the greatness we can be. I say we should start a new party... our party... an eco-feminist party... a party that values this magnificent world we inhabit... a party that recognizes the inherent worth of all human beings.

Submitted by DvlsAdvocat (not verified) on Sun, 2008-06-29 19:26.

Can someone please give me specific examples (with links if possible) of the sexist/unfair treatment dealt to Sen. Clinton by Sen. Obama and or "the media"...? I am drawing a blank.

Submitted by Paul Freiberger (not verified) on Wed, 2008-06-04 20:42.

President of Shimmering Resumes Offers to Write Free Resume for Hillary Clinton, to Help Her Gain VP or Job in the Obama Administration

FOR RELEASE: June 4, 2008

SAN MATEO, CA — The president of one of the nation’s leading professional resume writing services has offered to write a free resume to help Hillary Clinton pitch her qualifications for an eventual position in the Obama Administration. So far, there has been no response.

Shimmering Resumes, a professional resume writing service for executives, is concerned about job prospects for the former First Lady and believes it can help her take that big next step up in her career.

Freiberger says Clinton should not blame herself for her faulty strategy or public distaste for her attacks on Senator Obama. “Self-blame, even when fully justified, will harm her morale,” said Freiberger, who includes morale-boosting among his services along with resume writing. “The past should not exist for her, except when it serves her purposes. Maintaining morale is key to her quest for power,” he added.

Freiberger recommended that Clinton take a look at his website, http://ShimmeringResumes.com, which offers plenty of career development and resume writing guidance. “If she calls,” he said. “I’ll tell her: ‘This resume is the most important document of your life.’”

Freiberger said he is not advising Clinton about abandoning her quest for the Presidency. “The numbers don’t look good,” he said. “But she wouldn’t listen to me any more than she listens to the newspaper columnists, so why try to persuade her?”

Nevertheless, Shimmering Resumes’ president said that he could foresee a role for Hillary in an Obama administration. “And not as Michelle Obama’s speechwriter,” he said. “With the right resume and proper interview counseling, Hillary could actually get an official position in an Administration. I would target her resume toward Secretary of Health and Human Services or Secretary of State.”

What If McCain Wins?

And should John McCain win the Presidency, what could Hillary do? “She could take full credit for his election,” said Freiberger. “She wouldn’t need a resume. She could name her job.”

Shimmering Resumes periodically offers its services free to noteworthy public figures facing career challenges. If you are such a person, send a note to info@shimmeringresumes.com.

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Submitted by Dave (not verified) on Wed, 2008-06-04 18:44.

Since Hillary isn't going to take the democratic primaries, let's have her run on a 3rd party ticket, and split the democratic vote. The united republican vote will then ensure that McCain is the next President of the United States.

Brilliant move! Between the Ron Paul and Hillary supporters, write-in ballots have a decent chance of costing democrats the election!

Who would have thought that after GW, we'd have yet another moronic bigot in the White House?

Submitted by Atheinostic on Wed, 2008-06-04 19:00.

We're long overdue for a switch to a Proportional Representation electoral system.

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